Posts by Pete Zahut

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Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?

by TTATTelder in

jw
friends

for some background, i am still in.

still an elder.

very much awake.

Pete Zahut

As early as the second issue of the Watch Tower, in August 1879, Brother Russell stated: “‘Zion’s Watch Tower’ has, we believe, JEHOVAH for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support. When He who says: ‘All the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,’ fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the publication.” Consistent with that, there is no begging for money in the literature of Jehovah’s Witnesses. - *** jv chap. 21 p. 340 How Is It All Financed? ***

I suppose a JW could say:

" Technically, Russell's statement above was specifically made about the magazine Zion's Watch Tower and never soliciting for the funds needed to print it.

It also was about never begging for money, in the literature, which so far hasn't happened" (to my knowledge.

Russell's statement was not referring to the petitioning of funds needed to support the other aspects of the kingdom work."

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Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?

by TTATTelder in

jw
friends

for some background, i am still in.

still an elder.

very much awake.

Pete Zahut

Just tell her that you heard that in the May broadcast of JW T.V they are asking us all to up the amount of money we are giving. Before we do, I suppose it would be a good idea to see what this is all about.

(click....on goes the TV)

Let (Lett) and the broadcast speak for itself . Keep the remote control at the ready and pause it at key points that are puzzling you such as:

When Lett say in so many words, "we never ask for money", you could hit the pause button and say:

"huh??? Didn't he just say they have all these big projects and they need more funds??"

When he talks about the $1 million (plus) needed to build each translation office you cold say:

"It seems like it would be wiser to rent a existing office space or do the translating remotely from Bethel. How hard could it be to take a book or magazine that has already been written in English and translate it to another language and send them from New York ? I wonder why they need a whole new complex to do it ? It would be nice if they would give us a breakdown of all the costs so we could make an informed decision. "

If you ask the questions rhetorically, she won't feel compelled to answer or become defensive, rather she may dare to entertain her own questions as they arise during the broadcast.

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big accident at Warwick construction site

by oppostate in

the wt society is fond of using the tilt-up method of construction where a network of rebar is made on the ground, concrete poured on it and allowed to cure, then the whole thing is tilted up and voila' you've got yourself a massive big-ass wall ready made.

these walls for several stories-high buildings are indeed massive and weighty so you need a heavy-duty crane to raise into position.. i just heard from an eye-witness ldc volunteer that while there a few weeks ago they had an enormous accident.

the crane tilted and crashed, the only one hurt was its operator.

Pete Zahut

Part 2 of the above story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAZ_sTCTT5k#t=112

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I Felt Proud Telling People That Michael Jackson Was Raised a JW

by Tempest in a Teacup in

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friends

i just remembered this thing this morning:.

sharing the same faith with the king of pop made me feel important for belonging to this religion, even if he was never baptised.

we were not in america or anywhere close by.

Pete Zahut

In the employee break room there was a discussion about M.J. when he was accused of molesting that boy. He was being scorned for being a molester and mocked because of his plastic surgery and appearance. My former Boss (big time Catholic) brought up in a mocking way that Michael Jackson was a Jehovah's Witness and asked me about it as if I had some sort of responsibility to answer for all things JW. My Boss had demonstrated in the past his low opinion of JW's doctrine and the annoying door to door business. He's normally a great gut but he never missed a chance to embarrass me and put me on the spot about anything JW related.

On this occasion I said " So Paul....didn't Madonna do a photo shoot of herself nude on the cross and writhing around naked in a Catholic church . Seems like she's about as much of a Catholic as M.J. is a Jehovah's Witness."

That shut him up for good on the subject. Never said a thing again in my presence about JW's.

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The org, it's money problems ans other stuff!

by username in

hi there, although i have been a lurker here for a while now i've not yet posted a new topic, so here goes nothing lol.. i have been thinking a lot lately on all the changes and the branch visits, specifically the uk branch visit where apparently it has bean mentioned the great tribulation is about to start.. since i've not heard the full talk and only heard certain items from it i got to thinking that maybe this is the org's way of saying the watchtower is about to go down due to all the cover ups and the long list of discrepancies.. maybe i am way off the mark here, what does everone else think?.

Pete Zahut

Nothing like the threat of a cataclysmic event looming on the horizon to spur on the troops and get those lagging donations, rolling in again. There's no easier way to feel saved than by giving an extra bit of cash and there's no problem that can't be made better, by throwing more money at it.

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Crap Shoot

by John Aquila in

what would have happen if i was not home when jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door?.

there was a group of us living in a small trailer in the mid 60s when and old pioneer brother knocked on our door and placed all kinds of books and magazines with us.

all of us took it seriously and studied and started attending the kingdom hall.

Pete Zahut

I think we come to forks in the road throughout our lives and whichever direction we happen to choose, we deal with what we encounter and those encounters become our life story.

I think those who become JW's on their own (not born in) are already a bit lost or are searching or are heading for a fall and having any kind of strong direction in their lives is an improvement. JW's are out there actively recruiting people and the odds of them finding and attracting lost ones is very high. How many people do you know who were doing really well in life already, joined the JW's as adults? In my experience, it was more often than not, those who were at a vulnerable stage in their lives who became JW's.

Healthy organizations like to see personal progress and growth among their members even if it takes them beyond the group. JW's want to squelch the individual,cripple their critical thinking abilities and teach them to fear that which is outside the group. I think many who encounter JW's and stay with it for a good period of time and then leave, on some level are still convinced that they are bad people or possibly cursed in some way for having done so. That belief becomes a self fulfilling prophesy for them and they head straight for what they believe they deserve.

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Prince of 'P-I-E-C-E"

by freemindfade in

now i have always kept to myself discussing and speculating about this with any witness.

i am speaking of the very talented musician prince.

i remember watching the naacp awards one year ages ago and hearing him thank the one true god jehovah and falling off my couch.

Pete Zahut

I think Prince dances to the beat of his own drum in all things including his own version of JW'ness.

He's definitely doesn't appear to be living or practicing the religion in any version that would be considered ok in these parts. You're not really even supposed to attend rock concerts let alone be the star of one.

I can't imagine "Tight Pants Tony" would approve of any of his outfits or allow him to be used for any "privileges" in the Hall.

I'm glad he isn't allowing them to vanquish his spirit or talent and turn him into a drone for the Watchtower Society.

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Where Does Jehovah Live?

by Wild_Thing in

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friends

when my niece was very little (over 20 years ago), barely walking or talking, my mother decided to teach her "where jehovah lives".

she would coach her and say, "where does jehovah live?

" in a sing-song voice.

Pete Zahut

This post reminds me of when my little Nephew was about 4 or 5 and was learning to say Jesus and Jehovah and answer at the meeting. During the Watchtower study he raised his hand to answer "Jehovah" but when the microphone got to him he forgot what to say.

You could hear my Sister in Law whispering clues in his ear..."It's Jesus' father and his name starts with the letter J"

My Nephew thought for a moment and then shouted "JABBA THE HUTT ! "

It was hilarious of course but it showed that he didn't really understand the difference between God and a Star Wars character and was simply being programmed.

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Did You Feel Bad For the JW Dishwasher-Cook Who Quit His Job (May JW Broadcasting)To Avoid Attending Later Meetings? He Pioneered on Welfare or Unemployment!

by RoyalFlushPhil in

did you watch the story about the jw who was working as a burger boy at some diner and his boss wanted him to work on sunday during the time of his meeting?

this faithful jw decided he could not attend a later meeting (6 pm sunday meeting) and soon quit his job(or got fired to attend his sunday meeting) so he could attend the sunday meeting he was assigned to.

i think he was on welfare because this story states he won't work on sunday morning because that's when his meeting is!

Pete Zahut

Can someone link to this video story? Thanks.

The Video that is being discussed is at approximately the 41:00 mark.

http://tv.jw.org/#video/VODStudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_VIDEO

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Did You Feel Bad For the JW Dishwasher-Cook Who Quit His Job (May JW Broadcasting)To Avoid Attending Later Meetings? He Pioneered on Welfare or Unemployment!

by RoyalFlushPhil in

did you watch the story about the jw who was working as a burger boy at some diner and his boss wanted him to work on sunday during the time of his meeting?

this faithful jw decided he could not attend a later meeting (6 pm sunday meeting) and soon quit his job(or got fired to attend his sunday meeting) so he could attend the sunday meeting he was assigned to.

i think he was on welfare because this story states he won't work on sunday morning because that's when his meeting is!

Pete Zahut

As I said in an earlier post on this topic.

(if any of this story is even true) Most JW's in that situation would have simply attended a later meeting in Sunday.

Most JW's (especially ones with 3 kids) would have waited to quit until they had another job.

The interior shots of that house were obviously a set (there were no windows in any of the rooms). Unless his wife had a good job, he couldn't have afforded to live there. (All the rooms were decorated in the JW perfect funeral parlor style)

They said, it took so long for him to get a job that he eventually had to sign up for unemployment. Most people, if they were entitled to it, would have signed up for unemployment immediately. This shows me that he quit rather than was fired as they (sort of ) indicated he was. In some circumstances, you can get unemployment if you quit, but only after many weeks have passed first.

There were many subliminal messages in that video that were intentionally used to get your sympathy for the Brother. The most glaring one to me was when the Boss put a timer in front of him while he cooked an order and the Brother gladly worked faster and was able to meet the deadline. This (if it even happened) was to show how mean and unreasonable the boss was to work for and asking him to work on Sunday was part of that unreasonableness.

They indicated once again, that Jehovah plays a direct hand in making good things happen in your life. Even though millions of non JW's have better jobs or are losing jobs and getting new ones all the time, when it happens in the congregation, it's because Jehovah manipulated time and space to get you what you deserve for doing what the WT Society calls "His Will".